Did Amanda Knox’s Italian beau work against her?

Today’s Oprah featured the parents of Amanda Knox defending their daughter who was sentenced to 26 years in prison for the death of her British roommate Meredith Kercher. I didn’t follow Amanda’s murder trial in Perugia, Italy closely enough to have an opinion on whether evidence proved her guilty of murdering her roommate. And as unsettling as it was to hear the guilty verdict last December, deep down I wasn’t surprised. I never thought she’d get off, even if she was innocent. As much as I love Italy — I’d move back in a heartbeat if I could afford it — the warm and fuzzy feelings aren’t always reciprocated toward foreign women.

When Americans are spending their money in Italy, the natives love us like one of their own. And when you chose to live in Italy rather than the United States as I did for two years, they say how “clever” you are, meaning intelligent. I have never met a race as ethnocentric as a whole as Italians (and I love them for this), who realize that while America may offer more conveniences, i.e. air conditioning and washing machines with brief cycles and dryers inside homes, their boot-shaped country really is the best in the world. Well, of course I would give it all up  to live in their antiquated country because what wise woman wouldn’t?

But let a foreign woman hook up with an Italian as Amanda did with her boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito, and, well, you see what can happen. I remember being at the home of an older Italian female, whom I got to know well through mutual friends. The lady invited another Italian woman over for dinner that night and it was clear that this other woman was not going to be my new BFF. She told me about an Italian saying that basically says, “Get your wife and your cow from your own village.” It’s  a way of saying stick to your own because you know what you’re getting. Or what this woman was telling me, Italian men should stick to their own women and leave the foreign women alone. I found Italian women to be skeptical of me and afraid I would take their man. I could tell stories here but I’m saving it for my book, Bellini for One.

While I was popular with the ragazzi (Italian men) in Italy, no surprise there, I only had a couple of Italian female friends and those handful had lived outside of Italy at some point in their life, thus giving them a broader view of the world. When an attractive, single woman moves to Italy, it is automatically assumed it is because she has an Italian lover or because she desires one. Italian men are legendary for pursuing any female with two legs and a pulse and having no regard for fidelity. Years ago, one American author wrote that Italian men treat a lone woman on the street like a dollar bill. In other words, you know he is going to try to pick her up.

Naturally, Amanda, being American, had an Italian beau. She was criticized for the above photo that shows the two kissing outside the house where her roommate lay dead. I wonder if she would have been viewed differently by the male and female jurors if she didn’t have an Italian boyfriend, who by the way was also found guilty and sentenced to 25 years. If she came off as just another foreigner living in Italy minding her own business and not depriving an Italian woman of Raffaele. This we’ll never know but I’ll always have my suspicions.

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39 responses to “Did Amanda Knox’s Italian beau work against her?

  1. shandana

    i agree with you that local women don’t care for the foreign ones. i had this same problem in sweden. the girls were major bitches. i was just asking for directions or places to hang out. they couldn’t have been colder. ironically, they don’t even like swedish men.

    but i digress. i don’t think she was deemed guilty because she had an italian boyfriend. she was a sociopath, as was he. all the evidence that i read clearly implicated them…

  2. Ah, I love Swedish men! I must travel there. Their women were just jealous of your dark hair.
    Was Amanda really a sociopath? I should have followed the trial considering the Today show reported on it extensively; but I didn’t follow it from the beginning so had a hard time focusing on it. It’s hard to know what to believe and the Italian judicial system is so different from ours that it is impossible to compare the two.

  3. Excellent post, and with your considerable experience and astute perceptions regarding Italy, I think you may be onto something…….

  4. I have no idea whetherAmanda did it or not. I can only say that if she didn’t do it, God help her.

    I have first hand experience with Italian women’s attitudes towards foreigners. On a recent trip I had the misfortune to be stripped of my handbag with not only my precious euros but all my personal International and domestic contacts and family photos. While the Carbinieri (Italian policemen) were professional, accommodating and most helpful, the Italian women at the AMEX office, where I was trying to receive money from the States, could have cared less. I was denied at every turn because I didn’t have the proper documentation. In fact, when the male Carbinieri provided me with the amended police report the Italian women of “authority” at the AMEX office requested, I was still denied. They said I still didn’t have the proper papers. In the end, nothing I did could please the Italian women and I had to rely on American friends in Italy to get me home. Bottom line, sure, the Italian males have raging hormones but the Italian women don’t do you any favors either. Word to the wise, stay out of trouble, especially abroad.

  5. Nilo

    Amanda’s behaviour after the murder certainly did not help. If she is not guilty, then yes God Help her. Can’t wait to read Bellini for One

  6. The evidence against Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito is overwhelming.

    Amanda Knox’s DNA was found on:

    1. On the double DNA knife and a number of independent forensic experts – Dr. Patrizia Stefanoni, Dr. Renato Biondo and Professor Francesca Torricelli – categorically stated that Meredith’s DNA was on the blade.

    2. Mixed with Meredith’s blood on the ledge of the basin.

    3. Mixed with Meredith’s blood on the bidet.

    4. Mixed with Meredith blood on a box of Q Tip cotton swabs.

    5. Mixed with Meredith’s blood in the hallway.

    6. Mixed with Meredith’s blood on the floor of Filomena’s room, where the break-in was staged.

    7. On Meredith’s bra according to Dr. Stefanoni AND Raffaele Sollecito’s forensic expert, Professor Vinci.

    Amanda Knox’s footprints were found set in Meredith’s blood in two places in the hallway of the new wing of the cottage. One print was exiting her own room, and one print was outside Meredith’s room, facing into the room. These bloody footprints were only revealed under luminol.

    A woman’s bloody shoeprint, which matched Amanda Knox’s foot size, was found on a pillow under Meredith’s body. The bloody shoeprint was incompatible with Meredith’s shoe size.

    Two independent imprint experts categorically excluded the possibility that the bloody footprint on the blue bathmat could belong to Rudy Guede. Lorenzo Rinaldi stated:

    “You can see clearly that this bloody footprint on the rug does not belong to Mr. Guede, but you can see that it is compatible with Sollecito.”

    The other imprint expert print expert testified that the bloody footprint on the blue bathmat matched the precise characteristics of Sollecito’s foot.

    An abundant amount of Raffaele Sollecito’s DNA was found on Meredith’s bra clasp. Sollecito must have applied considerable pressure to the clasp in order to have left so much DNA. The hooks on the clasp were damaged which confirms that Sollecito had gripped them tightly.

    According to Judge Massei and Judge Cristiani, Rudy Guede’s visible bloody footprints lead straight out of Meredith’s room and out of the house. He didn’t lock Meredith’s door, remove his trainers, go into Filomena’s room or the bathroom that Meredith and Knox shared.

    He didn’t scale the vertical wall outside Filomena’s room or gain access through the window. The break-in was clearly staged. This indicates that somebody who lived at the cottage was trying to deflect attention away from themselves and give the impression that a stranger had broken in and killed Meredith.

    Guede had no reason to stage the break-in and there was no physical evidence that he went into Filomena’s room or the bathroom. The scientific police found a mixture of Knox’s DNA and Meredith’s blood on the floor in Filomena’s room. They also found irrefutable proof that Knox and Sollecito had tracked Meredith’s blood into the bathroom.

    The murder dynamic implicates Knox and Sollecito.

    Barbie Nadeau wrote the following:

    “Countless forensic experts, including those who performed the autopsies on Kercher’s body, have testified that more than one person killed her based on the size and location of her injuries and the fact that she didn’t fight back—no hair or skin was found under her fingernails.”

    Judge Paolo Micheli claimed that Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito knew precise details about Meredith’s murder that they could have only known if they were present when she was killed.

    Amanda Knox voluntarily admitted that she involved in Meredith’s murder in her handwritten note to the police on 6 November 2007. She stated on at least four separate occasions that she was at the cottage when Meredith was killed. She also claimed that Sollecito was at the cottage.

    Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito both gave multiple conflicting alibis and lied repeatedly. Their lies were exposed by telephone and computer records, and by CCTV footage. Neither Knox nor Sollecito have credible alibis for the night of the murder despite three attempt each. At the trial, Sollecito refused to corroborate Knox’s alibi that she was at his apartment.

    Legal expert Stefano Maffei stated the following:

    “There were 19 judges who looked at the evidence over the course of two years, faced with decisions on pre-trial detention, review of such detention, committal to trial, judgment on criminal responsibility. They all agreed, at all times, that the evidence was overwhelming.

    • Harry Rag,
      Sorry for the delay in approving your comment. Been traveling. You have done an amazing job following this trial. Thanks for the in depth info.

      Kelly

    • conclusive

      quick question… wasn’t it amanda’s apartment as well? hence discovering her DNA around the place isn’t that conclusive? to say it was ‘mixed’ with meridith’s blood is a little naive I think… to find her DNA on a sink? and a bidet? what a revelation! she must be guilty!

    • Rick

      Harry, that is possibly the stupidest, most mindless, most ridiculous and ignorant assemblage of phony “evidence” I have ever seen. You are either retarded or an idiot, had to say which. Thank God you are not seeking a future in law.

  7. The English translation of Judge Massei’s sentencing report can be downloaded from here:

    http://www.perugiamurderfile.org/viewtopic.php?p=53735

  8. Sandra Burkhardt

    When Meredith was found murdered her Italian roommates left the city and went home. When Meredith’s friends heard about her death they immediately left the country. They had no thought to stay with Meredith to find out who killed her except Amanda Knox. She didn’t flee the country like all the other “roommates and friends” but stayed not thinking she’d be charged with her murder.

    The fact that those close to her fled because they were afraid of being implicated in the situation yet Amanda didn’t think she needed to flee tells me her first knee jerk reaction was to stay with Meredith to find out who did this to her roommate and friend. She was innocent and was railroaded by the Italian police and justice system.

    Sandra

  9. Renny

    think she’s innocent. noone really nos dat it’s her cause they didn’t see it happen. only God knows

  10. Donatella Bellini

    I think it’s mainly American women from the USA that get up Italian womens’ noses, not foreign women in general!. In fact, US women can be quite annoying to many women (and men) in many countries!!!!! Sorry guys, but please learn to be more subtle, not so loud and you will be liked a lot more. Less of all that Under the Tuscan Sun Frances Mayes kind of thing.
    Ciao, from sunny Sydney, Australia

    • Lee

      I’m an American and I also live in Sydney and its been my experience that plenty of people traveling from overseas (including Italians) can be very obnoxious regardless of what country they are from. On the flip side, tourists can be absolutely wonderful people to come across in your home town or in your travels overseas, regardless of where they are originally from. When I lived in NYC I also found this to be true. Claiming all U.S. citizens are loud and unsubtle is ignorant and prejudiced. Of course some US tourists are irritating, but there are irritating tourists from every country. For example, following the drop in the strength of the US dollar against the Euro and the subsequent influx of European shopping tourists to our cities I can say with absolute authority that there are plenty of people across the pond who are far from quiet or subtle when traveling abroad. Anti-Americanism in Europe and the world over has become a truly exhausting and depressing norm and Europeans are kidding themselves if they don’t think that broad sweeping negative generalizations about a vast and incredibly diverse county are prejudiced. Saying everyone in the US behaves in a certain way, or feels a certain way, or thinks a certain way is just as insane as saying all Europeans are feeling and thinking and behaving the same way. I believe Germany and Greece would have a few issues if I tossed them in to the same category, and thats not even taking in to account the fact that within each of these countries the variety of people and beliefs and behaviors would be countless. Keep that in mind before claiming the 307,006,550 citizens of the US are too loud and unsubtle for your taste.

  11. Bec

    I find it shocking that you can even contemplate that the reason she was found guilty was because Italian women don’t like foreign women who date “their” men. For someone who lived in the country for two years, it seems such an ignorant way of looking at the situation.

    And as for the comment left about her staying in Italy following the murder making her apear innocent, if you look at it from the view of criminal psychology, it can actually point to her being guilty of the crime. Murderer’s may often try to insert themselves into the investigation for many reasons.

    She’s also been caught in so many lies, I find it difficult to trust the statements she makes.

  12. Deborah

    That photo shows Amanda and her boyfriend kissing outside the house where her flatmate and supposed friend was murdered, at the exact time that the body was discovered. At that moment he police were inside looking at a gruesome murder scene, and these two were snuggling, giggling and necking outside. Their intimate behaviour was extremely inappropriate given the circumstances, yet you trivialize it by claiming she was vilified because she was a foreign woman! What a ridiculous and vacuous statement!!

  13. Deborah

    p.s. When I travel I take great pains to ensure that I am not mistaken for American. I proudly display my Canadian Maple Leaf pin for all to see. Consequently I have never encountered a problem with either males or females. Unfortunately when Americans travel, they take their reputations along with them, leave the arrogance at home and you might enjoy a less confrontational holiday.

    • Dana

      I’m an American woman who has traveled abroad many times, and I’ve never had a “confrontational holiday” nor encountered problems with males or females in other countries. I always attempt to learn the language before I go and am considerate of other cultures. Every country has its stereotypes, but they don’t apply to *every* person who lives in those countries. Please don’t make sweeping statements that imply that all Americans are arrogant.

    • Rachel

      What I find amusing is that when I travel abroad it’s many (although of course not all) of the Canadian’s, “proudly displaying their maple leaves” that stand out in a most obnoxious way. Me, as an American have often been mistaken for a local. On a side note: I would never dream of telling someone how to behave on their holiday. It’s just bad manners….

    • Nikita Lions

      Its people like you who are the problem. People who generalize a whole group of people based on where they’re from… skin color and religion too?. That’s how racism and prejudice is. Im sure you detest people who think all Canadians are ignorant and snobs. Well you’re no better than them when you claim all Americans are that way. True many people give a certain group a bad name, but they don’t represent the people as a whole. Be a little less narcisstic and open your eyes before you open your mouth.
      “Remove the plank from your own eye before trying to remove the splinter from your brothers eye.”
      God bless

    • Lee

      Wow Deborah… what a really ignorant and hateful comment to make. I’m an American who has not only traveled widely abroad but who currently lives in Sydney Australia and I’ve never once run in to any issues on account of my nationality. Anyone who would treat me differently because I happen to be from the U.S. is in the same category as someone who would discriminate against me because of my race. I would also say that claiming all Americans have anything in common aside from our citizenship is a good indication that you know nothing about the american people. We are a wildly diverse country, with extreme regional differences, and citizens whose histories can be traced back to every part of the globe. Of course there are some American’s who are miserable assholes, but guess what, I’ve seen plenty of Canadians in Sydney act like complete assholes too… just as I’ve seen people from the UK, France, New Zealand, Greece, Italy, (the list could go on and on) act poorly when traveling overseas too. Keep the hateful comments to a minimum. Arrogant idiots come in all shapes and sizes and from all races and countries. Canadian Maple Leaf pins don’t change that.

    • The worst experiences I have ever had in foreign travel have been with, sorry to say, Canadians.

  14. Mike

    Wow, Deborah… you paint everyone with one big, broad brush-stroke. If you feel that way about Americans, I bet your not the type who takes “shopping holidays” down in the US and pay your HST for your Providence and Country. I love how Canadians like to criticize the American way but they love to venture into our country and benefit from our free-trade prices. I can’t wait until our Govt. starts putting an excise tax on foreigners who come here to shop and for holiday.

  15. Alicia

    Wow, there are some really classless remarks that have been left on this post. I’d just like to point out that I’ve seen loud, obnoxious Australians and Canada wandering around Seoul and creating drunken chaos as much as I’ve seen the Americans do so. Get off your high horses because all people are equally horrible in certain situations.

  16. Cynthia

    I came across this when I was Googling “Amanda Knox” (somehow missed the entire story before now). I spent a week in Italy (mainly in Genoa) back in 1997 as a 22-year old recent college grad, and the women were just as warm and friendly to me as the men were. Your observations about Italian women really surprised me because I never once sensed any animosity or competition. Granted, I was staying with a college friend and her family, but her local friends had begged to meet me, in part to spend time practicing their English. The only moment when I worried that they might not like me was when one of them whispered something to my friend. But then my friend burst out into laughter and explained to me that the young woman was relieved that she could understand me. The last American friend who had visited spoke with such a heavy Texas accent that the Italian woman really had to struggle to comprehend what the American one was saying, and she (the Italian) was worried that she had learned English wrong. The moment I started speaking, she realized that she could indeed understand conversational English. 🙂

  17. Patty

    This is an interesting read! i came across this blog also googling about Amanda Knox.I’m glad she’s free (yes,despite the evidences against her i still believe she’s innocent). What i don’t understand is why the prosecutors really want her in jail. They already caught Mr. Guede, who had more motive to steal and kill, with his DNA obviously out if place (he didnt live in the flat). Isn’t he enough an answer for the murder of Meredith Kercher? 😦 Where’s the need to implicate an American coming from?

    • Vetro

      “Isn’t he enough an answer for the murder of Meredith Kercher”?

      You must be kidding me! Here is one hypothetical scenario to answer your question. Suppose one of your loved ones is murdered. There have been more than one parties involved in the murder, but the one that supposedly did the killing was found. Is it justified in your mind to let the rest go free because they may not have done that actual killing while being present at the murder scenes?

  18. prejudice ppl

    That’s fucked up how Troy Davis get executed but a white who ever don’t white ppl get off easy y’all so prejudice

  19. prejudice ppl

    She need to be executed

  20. Rachel

    What?!? Seriously, just WHAT?!? ^^^^^^^^^

  21. Are Harry Rag’s comments from May of 2010 still valid after the verdict? I mean, did the new outcome completely overturn all of this information or are there still many questions about these details?

    I have actually not followed the Amanda Knox case closely. I try to follow Italian news closely but I guess I’m more interested in stories that pertain only to Italians. I get enough about Americans by living in America (and being American myself). I say this because obviously I might know the answer to my question if I had been following the case more closely.

  22. scott

    Harry Rag’s comments reflect the prosecutions version of the evidence from the first trial. In the defense’s version, all those points are incorrect. In the appeal trial the DNA on the knife and bra clasp where found to be non credible by an independent review appointed by Judge Hellmann. An actual break-in was also ruled to have occurred. Not a staged break-in which was the result of the first trial. The ruling on the Murder and Rape charges in the appeal was that Amanda and Raffaele where not involved. A full report on the verdict of the appeals court should be out in December ’11 or early January ’12. This report will likely readdress the other points from the first trial that are mentioned in the post above. Some books that cover the case are “Murder in Italy” by Candace Dempsey. Another book is “Injustice in Perugia” by Bruce Fisher. This book refutes all the points made in the above post. A followup book “Finding Justice in Perugia” details the appeals trial with eventual acquittal.

  23. The English translation of the Italian Supreme Court report which explains why Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito’s acquittals were annulled can be downloaded from the Perugia Murder File website:

    http://www.perugiamurderfile.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=599

  24. If anybody wants to understand the reasons why Amanda Knox was convicted of murder, I recommend reading the translations of the official court documents and court testimony. They are available online at the Meredith Kercher wiki website:

    http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_Page

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